1 00:00:04,470 --> 00:00:03,110 just a graphic idea the intent is the 2 00:00:07,430 --> 00:00:04,480 blue arrow 3 00:00:08,870 --> 00:00:07,440 so you're heading down and you're before 4 00:00:13,830 --> 00:00:08,880 anything is there 5 00:00:16,390 --> 00:00:13,840 you're aiming at the at an empty spot 6 00:00:18,230 --> 00:00:16,400 saying i'm going to get some thing to 7 00:00:20,950 --> 00:00:18,240 come out there 8 00:00:22,310 --> 00:00:20,960 and then depending on what your which 9 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:22,320 direction the whole 10 00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:24,800 situation is that thing fills up with 11 00:00:34,069 --> 00:00:26,640 meaning 12 00:00:38,150 --> 00:00:34,079 a whatever it is yes 13 00:00:45,510 --> 00:00:42,229 this i think 14 00:00:50,069 --> 00:00:45,520 a is what leads us yes 15 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:50,079 to our to our ladybug now 16 00:01:01,270 --> 00:01:00,069 it's this whole realm of things that 17 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:01,280 fuse 18 00:01:06,149 --> 00:01:04,320 are come to us in the unconscious mind 19 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:06,159 and it's the moment that they fuse into 20 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:08,960 the object that we become conscious 21 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:10,799 for that i'd need to bring some other 22 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:12,799 slides and show you how it works but you 23 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:13,760 know it from 24 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:16,000 double drawings and things like that our 25 00:01:20,070 --> 00:01:17,840 mind clicks into one view 26 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:20,080 into another view and we're not 27 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:20,880 conscious 28 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:23,759 of the build up in any way the fusion 29 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:25,280 the build up whatever you want to call 30 00:01:29,830 --> 00:01:26,720 it the coming together 31 00:01:32,149 --> 00:01:29,840 happens out of consciousness 32 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:32,159 and consciousness awakens with the 33 00:01:36,789 --> 00:01:33,680 object with the concept 34 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:36,799 that arrives so 35 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:40,880 from this we can conclude the mind 36 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:44,000 conscious not conscious and in 37 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:47,360 both infused with intent 38 00:01:53,990 --> 00:01:50,880 produces concepts 39 00:01:57,190 --> 00:01:54,000 there's no essence to the concept but 40 00:02:00,230 --> 00:01:57,200 in acting as if there was one zoom 41 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:00,240 yes the arrow a concept 42 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:04,079 is formed and such is the power 43 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:10,710 and since time is short 44 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:13,840 i just one little anecdote for the for 45 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:14,720 the end 46 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:18,000 if we look at intent and causality 47 00:02:24,309 --> 00:02:21,440 we saw intent as the point 48 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:24,319 the end point is singular and that's the 49 00:02:30,229 --> 00:02:26,000 name of what's going on 50 00:02:32,949 --> 00:02:30,239 the beginning fuses back into the whole 51 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:35,750 and if we and this is as much part of 52 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:37,200 reality 53 00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:40,959 as is the same structure 54 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:46,949 which is causality as it's usually 55 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:47,840 described 56 00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:50,560 without going into and so you have the 57 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:51,280 initial 58 00:02:56,390 --> 00:02:54,879 impulse the impulse spreads 59 00:02:58,309 --> 00:02:56,400 one billiard ball knocks another 60 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:58,319 billiard ball that one knocks a few 61 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:00,720 others that knocks a few others 62 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:02,800 energy dissipates in friction and so on 63 00:03:05,830 --> 00:03:04,560 and so forth and 64 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:05,840 in the end of it all it's all 65 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:07,760 dissipating out into the world 66 00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:11,599 as the the world's entropy rises 67 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:14,800 and so we have a form a country a 68 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:16,480 contrast of forms 69 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:18,480 and it's interesting to note that 70 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:21,440 causality of course is with the push 71 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:25,040 and intent is being drawn 72 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:31,830 these are just a few thoughts 73 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:35,200 that come from that that we have time 74 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:36,000 for right now 75 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:39,120 in peering into how concepts are formed 76 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:42,640 and taking back from the article in 77 00:03:50,149 --> 00:03:46,319 the new scientist where the person is 78 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:50,159 trying to describe things in terms of 79 00:03:56,149 --> 00:03:53,680 what you see and what you don't see 80 00:03:57,830 --> 00:03:56,159 and leaving out according to the way i 81 00:04:01,270 --> 00:03:57,840 understand it 82 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:01,280 the whole impulse of intention 83 00:04:04,949 --> 00:04:04,480 and of course its subjectivity and with 84 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:04,959 that 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,069 when you played with your fingers 86 00:04:27,749 --> 00:04:23,990 and i said ladybug yes i didn't think 87 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:27,759 i knew right it wasn't a thought process 88 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:28,960 it was a 89 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:31,759 knowing yes there wasn't any cause or 90 00:04:37,030 --> 00:04:33,600 effect it was 91 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:37,040 right how do you explain that oh uh 92 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:39,040 there are two things there first of all 93 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:40,800 if you want an explanation of your 94 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:41,759 intuition 95 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:43,360 in knowing what i was thinking about 96 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:45,199 there are people here who can speak 97 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:48,160 about that much better than i could yes 98 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:49,520 but if you're talking about the fact 99 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:51,520 that you did come up with something 100 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:54,479 yes sure you came up with ladybug but 101 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:55,440 the whole idea 102 00:05:00,870 --> 00:04:59,199 what drove you to an to an a concrete 103 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:00,880 object 104 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:05,520 yes to a some kind of entity some thing 105 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:09,280 is the the mindset you had of 106 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:12,720 or the intent of reaching such a single 107 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:15,120 object because the mind can be geared to 108 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:16,080 in another way 109 00:05:23,430 --> 00:05:22,390 you did that by holding it like that 110 00:05:25,749 --> 00:05:23,440 yeah 111 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:25,759 i i it's you yes you you certainly 112 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:27,039 picked up on something that was 113 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:27,759 happening 114 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:31,360 in my mind too yes 115 00:05:34,629 --> 00:05:33,680 peter that was such a wonderfully 116 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:34,639 artistic 117 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:38,160 presentation of uh the the uh 118 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:41,280 importance of uh intention uh but 119 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:44,560 i i i wonder whether you've left out the 120 00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:46,320 other side 121 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:50,160 which is that uh a a whole large side of 122 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:52,000 the cone 123 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:54,960 that explores possibilities and we tend 124 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:58,000 to emphasize in discussing consciousness 125 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:01,039 uh uh uh too often 126 00:06:05,110 --> 00:06:04,800 a specific willed outcome rather than 127 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:05,120 the 128 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:07,840 distributed attention that explores 129 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:09,120 possibilities 130 00:06:13,430 --> 00:06:11,360 intuitively with the right brain and so 131 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:13,440 forth and i wonder if you would comment 132 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:14,080 on that 133 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:15,840 thank you very much for bringing it up 134 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,720 because i i couldn't arrive there in the 135 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:20,400 20 minutes that i had 136 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:22,960 and or 15 minutes and yes very 137 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:23,919 definitely 138 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:26,400 this intent at finishing with an end 139 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:27,919 this particular endpoint 140 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:31,120 is one structure of intent yeah 141 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,560 and what you're talking about right 142 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:34,319 brain or something like that we can look 143 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:35,039 at what it 144 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:37,280 what happens when you let go of that 145 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:38,400 intent and 146 00:06:42,629 --> 00:06:41,440 there's another structure forming thank 147 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:42,639 you 148 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:54,390 what about intentionless processes such 149 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:55,840 as meditation 150 00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:58,720 and so on in which one tries to remove 151 00:07:02,469 --> 00:06:59,680 intention 152 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:02,479 so as to come to some sort of a 153 00:07:10,309 --> 00:07:04,400 conclusion or concept or 154 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:13,350 the again 155 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:17,199 the intent that i described here 156 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:19,520 is the intent of the denotative 157 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:20,960 conscious 158 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:25,039 a rational mind and it's also the drive 159 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:25,840 behind 160 00:07:31,749 --> 00:07:29,039 a classical science 161 00:07:32,469 --> 00:07:31,759 there is a letting go of all of that 162 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:32,479 yeah 163 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:34,080 and the letting go of all of that is 164 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:35,840 that it allows for a whole 165 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:38,880 new possibility of 166 00:07:43,990 --> 00:07:42,639 of of integration in fact i was going to 167 00:07:46,629 --> 00:07:44,000 do an exercise with you for 168 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:46,639 that but i i think we it's it's finished 169 00:07:51,189 --> 00:07:48,000 yes in no time now 170 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:51,199 so but uh in other words 171 00:07:54,869 --> 00:07:53,199 there is such a thing as letting go to 172 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:54,879 get the big picture 173 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:58,000 also of stepping back and wanting to get 174 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:01,120 a feel of a hole because 175 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:04,240 holes don't come through 176 00:08:09,510 --> 00:08:08,160 a a hole is not made by the rational 177 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:09,520 mind 178 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:13,039 the concept lands in our lap so to speak 179 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:15,599 ready made but behind that is the 180 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:18,080 working of the unconscious mind 181 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:20,639 which is producing it and if we take 182 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:21,840 away the goal 183 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:24,479 of ending up with some particular thing 184 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:26,400 there are all sorts of possibilities